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Have you seen this about Hillary?
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slate_leeper
2006-10-21 22:17:29 UTC
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From: http://www.msunderestimated.com/category/telling-it-like-it-is/

An Open Letter to Hillary From Juanita Broaddrick
By MsUnderestimated

Folks, I just found this tonight and I’m sure a lot of others have
seen this, but I am stunned. I have never seen it before. But I do
know one thing: If this was in the least bit libelous or slanderous,
Juanita would not be allowed to keep this site up. It’s also
interesting to note that two of the links in the article are no longer
valid (kinda like Vince Foster, eh?).

Since the audio link doesn’t work, I’m just going to post Juanita’s
own words:


AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON,
BY JUANITA BROADDRICK
‘DO YOU REMEMBER?’
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000

Juanita Broaddrick:
As I watched Rick Lazio’s interview on Fox News this morning, I felt
compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume
asked Mr. Lazio’s views regarding you as a person and how he perceived
you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know
that I can. You know it, too.

I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person
you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you.
When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate
race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to
me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were
yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about
what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political
rally for Mr. Clinton’s bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated
myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband
in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then
leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I
was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the
gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked
him about me and if I would be at the gathering.

Do you remember? You told the driver, “Bill has talked so much about
Juanita”, and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no
time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and
grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying “we want
to thank you for everything that you do for Bill”. At that point, I
was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a
tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your
statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen
many times on television in the last eight years. You said,
“Everything you do for Bill”. You then released your grip and I said
nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet
about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two
weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both
know the answer to that question.

Yes, I can answer Brit Hume’s question. You are the same Hillary that
you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving.
You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the
power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay
in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope
the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary
Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.
I will end by asking if you believe the statements I
made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted
and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President
Gore and did not see the interview.

Juanita Broaddrick
Arkansas
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
A.E. 352
2006-10-21 22:48:16 UTC
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It's amazing how the Clinton's were basically RUN OUT of Arkansas
politically, yet us STUPID New Yorkers seem to embrace them with open
arms... Go figure. Bill is known as 'Billy Clinton' throughout the South,
yet us Yankees allow him and his wife to simply move to New York and take
over politics here. They have RAN from their political past to New York
State, yet voters here are too STUPID to do their homework and see through
this charade. Don't you find it in the least bit suspect that even the folks
from Arkansas are glad they're gone? WAKE UP NEW YORKERS !!!
Post by slate_leeper
From: http://www.msunderestimated.com/category/telling-it-like-it-is/
An Open Letter to Hillary From Juanita Broaddrick
By MsUnderestimated
Folks, I just found this tonight and I'm sure a lot of others have
seen this, but I am stunned. I have never seen it before. But I do
know one thing: If this was in the least bit libelous or slanderous,
Juanita would not be allowed to keep this site up. It's also
interesting to note that two of the links in the article are no longer
valid (kinda like Vince Foster, eh?).
Since the audio link doesn't work, I'm just going to post Juanita's
AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON,
BY JUANITA BROADDRICK
'DO YOU REMEMBER?'
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000
As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt
compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume
asked Mr. Lazio's views regarding you as a person and how he perceived
you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know
that I can. You know it, too.
I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person
you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you.
When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate
race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to
me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.
I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were
yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about
what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political
rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated
myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband
in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then
leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I
was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the
gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked
him about me and if I would be at the gathering.
Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about
Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no
time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and
grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want
to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I
was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a
tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your
statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen
many times on television in the last eight years. You said,
"Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said
nothing and left the gathering.
What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet
about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two
weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both
know the answer to that question.
Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that
you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving.
You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the
power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay
in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope
the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary
Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.
I will end by asking if you believe the statements I
made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted
and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President
Gore and did not see the interview.
Juanita Broaddrick
Arkansas
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
roadrunner
2006-10-22 05:23:53 UTC
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Post by slate_leeper
From: http://www.msunderestimated.com/category/telling-it-like-it-is/
An Open Letter to Hillary From Juanita Broaddrick
By MsUnderestimated
Folks, I just found this tonight
==============================================
Isn't it amazing that "concerned citizens" like slate_leeper can
suddenly pull this stuff out of the attic, in the middle of an election
campaign?

Looks like Karl Rove is keeping pretty busy nowadays, plastering
over the cockroaches.

Mike.
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slate_leeper
2006-10-22 13:10:25 UTC
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Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
From: http://www.msunderestimated.com/category/telling-it-like-it-is/
An Open Letter to Hillary From Juanita Broaddrick
By MsUnderestimated
Folks, I just found this tonight
==============================================
Isn't it amazing that "concerned citizens" like slate_leeper can
suddenly pull this stuff out of the attic, in the middle of an election
campaign?
Looks like Karl Rove is keeping pretty busy nowadays, plastering
over the cockroaches.
Perhaps you noticed this was dated 2000?

Facts, facts, facts....

What office is Hillary running for this year?

-dan z-

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
Barold
2006-10-23 12:30:14 UTC
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Ooohh.... you still haven't recovered from something that happened in
1978? Grow up and move on.
roadrunner
2006-10-30 06:25:06 UTC
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Post by slate_leeper
Perhaps you noticed this was dated 2000?
Facts, facts, facts....
What office is Hillary running for this year?
-dan z-
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
To danz (Slate):

I like your quote from Sam Adams. It proves a point.

Prior to the American Revolution, there were at least two very vocal
and persuasive leaders, quoting such prose as you post here. They were
Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry.

After the Revolution, the country needed stable leaders who could
build a nation through mutual accommodation and respect. Its leaders
rejected both Sam Adams and Patrick Henry as suitable to that different
task.

Go figure.

Mike.
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Morton Davis
2006-10-30 12:12:28 UTC
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Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
Perhaps you noticed this was dated 2000?
Facts, facts, facts....
What office is Hillary running for this year?
-dan z-
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
I like your quote from Sam Adams. It proves a point.
Prior to the American Revolution, there were at least two very vocal
and persuasive leaders, quoting such prose as you post here. They were
Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry.
After the Revolution, the country needed stable leaders who could
build a nation through mutual accommodation and respect. Its leaders
rejected both Sam Adams and Patrick Henry as suitable to that different
task.
Go figure.
Didn't Adams become president? Some rejection. The leadup to events is often
greatly different than the event. Once the job of actually building and
running a new government for a new countrybecame reality, it came with all
the nergotiation and compromises of reality.
Bill in Schenectady
2006-10-30 22:05:50 UTC
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Post by slate_leeper
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
Perhaps you noticed this was dated 2000?
Facts, facts, facts....
What office is Hillary running for this year?
-dan z-
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
better than the
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your
counsel
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your
chains rest
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
I like your quote from Sam Adams. It proves a point.
Prior to the American Revolution, there were at least two very vocal
and persuasive leaders, quoting such prose as you post here. They were
Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry.
After the Revolution, the country needed stable leaders who could
build a nation through mutual accommodation and respect. Its leaders
rejected both Sam Adams and Patrick Henry as suitable to that different
task.
Go figure.
Didn't Adams become president? Some rejection. The leadup to events is often
greatly different than the event. Once the job of actually building and
running a new government for a new countrybecame reality, it came with all
the nergotiation and compromises of reality.
You need to get your Adam's straight!
Raker
2006-11-01 02:28:19 UTC
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Post by Morton Davis
Post by roadrunner
I like your quote from Sam Adams. It proves a point.
Prior to the American Revolution, there were at least two very vocal
and persuasive leaders, quoting such prose as you post here. They were
Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry.
After the Revolution, the country needed stable leaders who could
build a nation through mutual accommodation and respect. Its leaders
rejected both Sam Adams and Patrick Henry as suitable to that different
task.
Go figure.
Didn't Adams become president? Some rejection. The leadup to events is often
greatly different than the event. Once the job of actually building and
running a new government for a new countrybecame reality, it came with all
the nergotiation and compromises of reality.
John Adams became president. Sam Adams, his more eloquent and marginally
dressed cousin, entered words into posterity, but not his leadership.

However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of defending a
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly going
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the right
of every person thereto. I wonder what he would have said about Guantanamo
Bay?

Todd
Jim Elbrecht
2006-11-01 10:31:13 UTC
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:28:19 GMT, "Raker" <***@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

-snip-
Post by Raker
John Adams became president. Sam Adams, his more eloquent and marginally
dressed cousin, entered words into posterity, but not his leadership.
'Marginally dressed' is kind.<g> Samuel's constituents bought him a
suit of clothes before he set out for Philadelphia.
Post by Raker
However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of defending a
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly going
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the right
of every person thereto.
That was John. [and he won, BTW] Samuel was a brewer.
Post by Raker
I wonder what he would have said about Guantanamo Bay?
Or the 'patriot act' or wiretapping citizens, or . . . . .

Jim
Morton Davis
2006-11-01 14:12:33 UTC
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Post by Jim Elbrecht
-snip-
Post by Raker
John Adams became president. Sam Adams, his more eloquent and marginally
dressed cousin, entered words into posterity, but not his leadership.
'Marginally dressed' is kind.<g> Samuel's constituents bought him a
suit of clothes before he set out for Philadelphia.
Post by Raker
However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of defending a
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly going
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the right
of every person thereto.
That was John. [and he won, BTW] Samuel was a brewer.
Post by Raker
I wonder what he would have said about Guantanamo Bay?
Or the 'patriot act' or wiretapping citizens, or . . . . .
What wiretapping of citizens?
Bill in Schenectady
2006-11-02 03:21:14 UTC
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Post by Morton Davis
Post by Jim Elbrecht
-snip-
Post by Raker
John Adams became president. Sam Adams, his more eloquent and marginally
dressed cousin, entered words into posterity, but not his leadership.
'Marginally dressed' is kind.<g> Samuel's constituents bought him a
suit of clothes before he set out for Philadelphia.
Post by Raker
However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of
defending
a
Post by Jim Elbrecht
Post by Raker
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly
going
Post by Jim Elbrecht
Post by Raker
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the
right
Post by Jim Elbrecht
Post by Raker
of every person thereto.
That was John. [and he won, BTW] Samuel was a brewer.
Post by Raker
I wonder what he would have said about Guantanamo Bay?
Or the 'patriot act' or wiretapping citizens, or . . . . .
What wiretapping of citizens?
Yes....You see, Bush gets to determine who is an enemy combatant. He also
gets to wiretap any calls that connect to people out of the country. Both
categories include citizens.
Raker
2006-11-01 18:04:41 UTC
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Post by Jim Elbrecht
Post by Raker
However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of defending a
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly going
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the right
of every person thereto.
That was John. [and he won, BTW] Samuel was a brewer.
I stand corrected. I'm a former New Hampshire boy, and to us, all them
Massachusetts guys look alike. 8*)

Still wonder what either Adams would think of the recent developments
regarding civil liberties.

Todd
Bill in Schenectady
2006-11-02 03:20:15 UTC
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Post by Raker
Post by Jim Elbrecht
Post by Raker
However, if I recall, Sam Adams undertook the admirable task of defending a
number of British soldiers in a trial where the soldiers were clearly going
to be convicted, simply because he believed in the rule of law and the right
of every person thereto.
That was John. [and he won, BTW] Samuel was a brewer.
I stand corrected. I'm a former New Hampshire boy, and to us, all them
Massachusetts guys look alike. 8*)
Still wonder what either Adams would think of the recent developments
regarding civil liberties.
Todd
I don't know if these facts are true, but an actor playing a revolutionary
era citizen who was leading a group along the Freedom Trail in Boston
claimed that Sam Adams wasn't a brewer, that his father was a brewer and Sam
Adams had failed at keeping the brewery going. He also said that Sam Adams
was essentially a rabble rouser; extremely good at getting a drunken mob
gathered with little notice.
Jim Elbrecht
2006-11-03 04:12:06 UTC
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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:20:15 GMT, "Bill in Schenectady"
<***@msn.com> wrote:


-snip-
Post by Bill in Schenectady
I don't know if these facts are true, but an actor playing a revolutionary
era citizen who was leading a group along the Freedom Trail in Boston
claimed that Sam Adams wasn't a brewer, that his father was a brewer and Sam
Adams had failed at keeping the brewery going.
Well, he wasn't as successful at it as his father was-- but I wonder
how much his political distractions had to do with his lack of
profitability.
Post by Bill in Schenectady
He also said that Sam Adams
was essentially a rabble rouser; extremely good at getting a drunken mob
gathered with little notice.
Amen--- Sam, Hancock & Paine were the Limbaugh, Hannity & Moore's of
their day. Pot-stirrers extraordinaire.

Jim
roadrunner
2006-11-15 19:45:27 UTC
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Post by slate_leeper
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
Perhaps you noticed this was dated 2000?
Facts, facts, facts....
What office is Hillary running for this year?
-dan z-
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
better than the
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your
counsel
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your
chains rest
Post by roadrunner
Post by slate_leeper
lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
... Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
I like your quote from Sam Adams. It proves a point.
Prior to the American Revolution, there were at least two very vocal
and persuasive leaders, quoting such prose as you post here. They were
Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry.
After the Revolution, the country needed stable leaders who could
build a nation through mutual accommodation and respect. Its leaders
rejected both Sam Adams and Patrick Henry as suitable to that different
task.
Go figure.
Didn't Adams become president? Some rejection. The leadup to events is often
greatly different than the event. Once the job of actually building and
running a new government for a new countrybecame reality, it came with all
the nergotiation and compromises of reality.
=====================
The second president was John Adams, from near Boston. His son, John
Quincy Adams, also became president. John Adams was a bit testy, but
always a gentleman. His wife, - Abigail, saw to that.

Mike.

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